Podcast #308: Logic Saves Lives Part 12 – Reason Obscured and Recovered

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Logic is about understanding reality in a non-contradictory way and how can we see things for what they are. It's been over a year since the last installment of Logic Saves Lives, but we are now rebooting the series for the purposes of review and expansion. Tony Myers will be the permanent co-host for these episodes. See Tony's past School Sucks contributions here, and please have a look at Tony's comprehensive notes on the science of logic here.

Metaphysical Laws

Remembering Invisible Children...oh wait, they're still around?

Discussion With Tony Myers:
-Kony 2012 and the Nazis warm-up: the importance of context
-the deliberate de-contextualizing of history since WWII
-Logic helps us find the essence of a subject
-Appreciation for The Underground History of American Education
-Why is logic obscured from the schools - a brief history
-Meaning and fulfillment through intrinsically-motivated pursuits
-Reviewing the trivium
-The lost tools of learning
-The laws of Aristotelian logic: identity, non-contradiction, excluded middle

Bumper Music:
Rush - "Free Will"
The Juice Media - "Yes We KONY"

Look Closer:

Will Durant - The Story of Philosophy
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Story_of_Philosophy

Tragedy & Hope Communications - http://www.tragedyandhope.com/

The Ultimate History Lesson: A Weekend with John Taylor Gatto - https://www.tragedyandhope.com/th-films/the-ultimate-history-lesson/

Trivium Education - http://www.triviumeducation.com/trivium/

Logical Fallacies Handlist - http://web.cn.edu/kwheeler/fallacies_list.html

Free Will - Ayn Rand Lexicon - http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/free_will.html

130: Logic Saves Lives (Introduction) – Empowerment and Self-Defense - http://schoolsucksproject.com/130-logic-saves-lives-introduction-empowerment-and-self-defense/

129: Logical Fallacies Series Preview #2 - A Brief Analysis of Kony 2012 - http://schoolsucksproject.com/129-logical-fallacies-series-preview-2-a-brief-analysis-of-kony-2012/

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  1. This was yet another awesome episode: It laid out the definition stage better than I’ve heard in any other podcast on the Trivium. I think more can be said about the detail of defining. I’d also like to hear more about the history briefly mentioned with regard to Kant. Like much I hear in other shows, these are delicious tidbits leaving me hungry for more detail.

    I’ve read Miriam Joseph’s Trivium and found that helpful in understanding the significance of this particular elements of this podcast. What else would you guys recommend as reading to practice the concepts covered in the show?

    It’s one thing to go out on the net and get overwhelmed with bad thinking; it’s another to find good sources to practice and experience good thinking. Any suggestions?

  2. I just finished the after show portion and heard Tony refer to “Peter Crave” (?) on “Concept Formation” — what work is he referring to?

  3. Hey Matthew!

    Thank you for the kind comments regarding the show; I’m always happy to hear it is of use to someone and that they were able to derive value from it:)!

    Regarding the definition stage of general grammar, I composed a document highlighting some of the concepts I presented at the end of the podcast in regard to concept formation, definition, and general grammar. It’s much more detailed and provides better continuity between the concepts than how I presented them towards the end of this podcast. Also included in the show notes are a couple of chapters from Peter Kreeft’s (funky pronunciation :P) logic book entitled “Socratic Logic”. The chapters included are specifically about concept formation and the two logics I mentioned in regards to Kant et al. I also included Gene Odening’s presentation on consciousness and cognition as well as general grammar to supplement the rest of the concepts I presented throughout this podcast. I hope it helps:)!


    As for Kant, I’ve studied Kant quite extensively and perhaps Brett and I could do a show, sometime in the future, outlining some of Kant’s ideas to show how it contrasts to classical logic.

    All the best,


    • Tony,

      Thank you very much for the pointers to the resources. I’m looking forward to digesting them.

      I would love and greatly encourage doing more than one show on Kant. I would find it hard to believe that such a pivotal figure in Philosophy could possibly get crammed sufficient into a single episode 😉 Should be a Kant series.

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