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Podcast #250b: Live Sestercentepisodic Gala, Part 2 – More On Sustainable Living and Permaculture

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A fake celebration of a show that is not even our 250th. Recorded live.

Part 2:
Voices include long-time supporters and friends, Osborne and Brian. This installment includes a fascinating (in my opinion) discussion about agricultural history, practices and sustainability.

-the 3 Ds of agriculture (drudgery, diesel, design)
-what are we eating?
-GMOs, food labeling, "Pure" honey
-Paul Wheaton,
-what can food growers learn from Mother Nature/forest ecology
-the magic of mushrooms?
-chicken shit-fed tilapia
-Doomsday Preppers and violent hordes preparing to replace the state
-every garden needs a chicken
-how schooling distorts the "free" market

Bumper Music:
"Look Around" Formidable Vegetable Sound System

Look Closer:
Sovereign Living Blog -

Design Principles of Permaculture -

Paul Wheaton, -

What's urban permaculture? -

Permaculture Design Principles Expansion -

Mycelium as a lymph system? (12:00)
Paul Stamets: 6 ways mushrooms can save the world -

  1. Profile photo of Andrew
    December 20, 2013


    Enjoyed this and your show with John Bush. For no necessary reason, they come as a bit of a surprise. Great to hear your interest in permaculture, etc. I’ve been studying permaculture since before I became introduced to the ideas of liberty/volunatryism, etc. and have a deep fascination with mushrooms/mycelium, as well. Many more thoughts on this but am a little distracted at the moment – just wanted to briefly share my thoughts and look forward more shows binging these ideas together.

    Regarding your interest in the activities of mycelium, here is a good starter talk, from one of the ambassador’s of fungi:

    • Profile photo of Andrew
      December 20, 2013


      Feel free to edit out my link to Stamets’ TED talk as I obviously had my head in or around my posterior, while (not) looking through the show notes.

  2. December 22, 2013

    Jeanmarie Todd

    I’ve recently resumed listening to your podcast, having dabbled in it a year or more ago, and I’m thrilled that you have discovered permaculture and included it in at least one podcast. I’m favorably impressed. I’m a long-time student of permaculture. Paul Stamets’ book “Mycelium Running: How Mushrooms Can Change the World” had a huge impact on my world view when I discovered it 8 or so years ago.

    I was into libertarianism and went through my Ayn Rand phase in my late 20s and early 30s. I became disillusioned with it after awhile because I was primarily familiar with the Republican-leaning, pro-corporate brand of libertarianism of the 80s and later, and the disconnect the movement seemed to have from the natural world and the environment. I made a last-ditch effort to re-embrace libertarianism by attending a Cato Institute seminar in Montreal on “how to talk to environmentalists.” The movement’s response, by and large, to the growing evidence of human-exacerbated climate change and catastrophic environmental degradation (do away with regulations and companies will naturally clean up their acts!) sealed the deal for me.

    Fast-forward a few years, and, full of disappointment with Obama, I have been pleased to find a brand of libertarianism that makes more sense to me and people that seem to share my values and concerns. I appreciate your discussions of the trivium, history, and education so much. I don’t agree with everything I hear, but the discussion is always valuable and helps me to re-evaluate my own assumptions and points up my need to review the grammar on many topics. Thanks for what you’re doing.

    • December 22, 2013

      Jeanmarie Todd

      Oh, a small note on your show notes: it’s hugelkultur, not “hoogaculture.” Paul Wheaton of has written the best introduction to it, at least in English. I think Sepp Holzer has also written about it. See

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